Episode 3: Serial Killers/Transcript

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 * alright what sir teaching the chickens

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 * welcome to the last address on the left

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 * wow this is now our third episode I into

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 * the second episode this is the third one

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 * the second one hasn't been released or

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 * spooky episode I am Ben Kissel with my

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 * beautiful co-host Marcus parks and

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 * Marcus and I want to welcome in our

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 * newest co-host the one the only Henry

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 * Zebrowski hey everybody out there radio

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 * America is that is that how much of

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 * America is listening to us just radio

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 * America and nailed it it was perfect

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 * good mostly Wisconsin oh yeah a lot of

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 * Wisconsin so Henry's going to be with us

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 * every single week and it's just going to

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 * your earphones

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 * speaking of Wisconsin today's subject

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 * serial killers yeah and God knows the

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 * golden cheese State has shat out quite a

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 * few murderous Beast I think it's just

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 * the fact that like Wisconsin has like

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 * butter on tap in homes right that like

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 * mostly I think it's that sort of like

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 * content what was it who did the Twinkie

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 * defense

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 * was that don't talk about like the

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 * Richard Ramirez yeah Richard Ramirez The

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 * Night Stalker Richard Ramirez he was

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 * only talking about like it was all the

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 * sugar in a system like these doctors

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 * came out like that's what they blamed

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 * all his heinous multiple murdering Zahn

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 * was like the sugar he was a it's more

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 * more fodder for the Bloomberg campaign

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 * against obesity absolutely thank God

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 * he's just trying to nip ceará killers

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 * in the bud he also then should just like

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 * not allow children to have pets outlaw

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 * bedwetting that would be good every

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 * serial killer wet their beds and kill

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 * old their Candace that is an absolute

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 * fact

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 * um zero killers like it's pretty much

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 * like why I even got into horror like

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 * what like I was talking about with my

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 * mom my mom found my files that I used to

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 * keep when I was a kid

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 * oh yeah detective Henry one files who

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 * are you keeping it what kind of people

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 * in Queens like around like I guess it

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 * was like 1994 night maybe 1996 it was a

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 * string of zodiac murders that happen in

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 * uh New York that went on unsolved the

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 * same thing would happen in LA where I

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 * was like sending like various letters to

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 * the post and like a sort of like weird

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 * cryptic I ever was and I used to uh clip

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 * out all of the articles on him and like

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 * keep it in a big folder because I was

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 * like superb says this movie end like the

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 * end of secret window where you look in

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 * the mirror and you realize you are is

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 * the one yeah if you seem like a serial

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 * killer tendencies no this no to all the

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 * fuckin posters that in the Unabomber my

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 * mom found my mom found my whole

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 * collection of my Unabomber like sort of

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 * memorabilia that I had kept and the

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 * thing is I wasn't printing out his

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 * manifesto unlike kept it like in my bag

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 * when I was like a sixth grader that must

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 * have been terrifying for your mother to

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 * discover now but now look at me you're

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 * doing fantastic and it's obviously

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 * you're not as your killer what was um

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 * what was the manifesto like for uh what

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 * was the guy's name you know Ted

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 * Kaczynski yeah Perkins in see he was

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 * just anti modern technology those like

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 * his whole thing is that he wanted

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 * everyone to live he was like a primitive

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 * ax stand he thought that everyone should

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 * like live like off the land and so he

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 * was attacking universities like science

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 * universities and airplanes it's very

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 * ironic that he was so against technology

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 * when he was a mathematician yeah I never

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 * but never killed anyone

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 * right no I actually didn't he killed one

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 * and they may be one pertained a lot of

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 * you've heard a lot of yeah

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 * yeah so I guess technically he's not a

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 * serial killer no no no we should get

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 * that we should go back to that no but I

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 * think that he certainly fits the the

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 * mental mold of a serial killer you know

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 * he's obviously psychotic in the brain

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 * and I think a lot of times serial

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 * killers have a motivation to better the

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 * world which is very ironic they have a

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 * lot of them have a sort it seems like a

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 * superiority complex of like they're the

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 * ones who can choose who live or die

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 * because they're trying to sort out the

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 * good in the bad yeah absolutely speaking

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 * of superiority complexes

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 * I think Dennis Rader the BTK killer ah

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 * bind torture kill vine torture kill love

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 * all three of those things uh it seems to

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 * me like he is you know he's one uh he is

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 * one of the people who uh he definitely

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 * thinks he's the best yeah because you're

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 * seems like a genuine prick cuz used to

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 * work for like zoning Lincoln City org

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 * that's ready work Eldorado's no that's

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 * where he's at he's out El Dorado

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 * Correctional Facility now no he worked

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 * he worked for Sedgwick County in Wichita

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 * Kansas he was the guy he would roll

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 * around in his pickup truck and measure

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 * all of his neighbors lawns and make sure

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 * that they didn't have too many truck

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 * tires you know in the front porch area

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 * and make sure no car and then he'd also

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 * gain access to your house because he

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 * also like was obsessed with people like

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 * that's what he would do you'd use his

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 * job the sort of high was very success

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 * that he build over like a long period of

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 * time so that he could kill them in the

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 * exact right moment in the most

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 * horrifying fashions he did anyone

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 * knowing he definitely killed him in the

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 * most horrifying fashions but yeah I mean

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 * that's what he would do he would just

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 * like go into people's houses and yell at

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 * them for having you know lawn equipment

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 * as you know spread all over the backyard

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 * or whatever apparently he would actually

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 * go with rulers and measure people's

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 * grass land about like the length of the

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 * grass not sound evidently in Wichita

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 * Kansas you know mind the fact that

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 * everybody is hideously unattractive in

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 * the school so he was completely flawed

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 * very concerned about their grass and so

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 * as a city they could be more than three

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 * inches yes and they and the neighbors I

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 * saw an interview with them one of his

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 * neighbors on a by on the biography and

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 * he said his grass was like point two

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 * inches above and he got a two hundred

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 * dollar fine Jesus Christ so he was a

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 * stickler he was a hell not see in many

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 * many ways how many did he end up being

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 * convicted for killing let's see he got

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 * consecutive life sentences it says he

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 * surfer was it just for tech are they

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 * like like build it was like assault and

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 * murder and all that sefar was how many

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 * victims was it I think that it must have

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 * been was it ten victims it seems to be

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 * ten yeah it seems to be ten all women

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 * and no there is a man in here one man so

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 * you know he doesn't discriminate but

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 * then he also stopped killing for like

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 * ten years

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 * women for a long time yeah and um they

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 * found other how man I'm sorry how was

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 * the breakdown because in the end he

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 * started taunting the police right like

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 * the like basically saying that you can't

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 * catch me

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 * and then sending them and they tracked

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 * them down through evidence right of like

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 * the recordings he sent them am i right

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 * oh my god really well I don't know it's

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 * about you yeah okay he got caught

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 * because he got cocky and he wanted to

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 * get his name back in the papers so he

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 * sent a floppy disk from his church

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 * computer that he admit that's right

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 * because he was also like floppy like 3.5

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 * megabyte exactly like back if he just

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 * wanted to show everyone what a fucking

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 * great killer genius he was he just

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 * wanted you know credit where credit is

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 * due and he legitimately deserved to

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 * people people should have been terrified

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 * of him and he's just like dude do they

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 * know that yes make sure know that yeah

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 * I'm gonna let him know again this is

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 * just also another thing this is just

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 * anyone who would ever listen to this

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 * you've just if you let someone into your

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 * house you are letting a possible maniac

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 * at all times

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 * absolutely someone you know very well

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 * even someone you've been doing comedy

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 * with for years

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 * sure you know life and you could even

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 * more so they know you went to college

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 * with them you've been in a sketch comedy

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 * group of them for like a really long

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 * time and you should never know that like

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 * in their house like that you never like

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 * let's say you just never ever have a

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 * meeting at like my house right no like

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 * you just never ever ever once no one

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 * ever comes to my house you don't know

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 * what's in there and then you let me in

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 * your house four days a week yeah I mean

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 * I'm not gonna let you into my house

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 * anymore I'll tell you that just knowing

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 * that you could dare fun and then I just

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 * know so much about your schedule like I

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 * know when you're alone yeah I've

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 * absolutely did you just wonder who you

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 * trust you just wonder I don't trust you

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 * and I think that no it's absolutely

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 * correct you know you got to be very

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 * careful of who you let into your home

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 * and I'm reading here about the BTK

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 * victims five out of the ten were all one

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 * family ah done in one day your January

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 * Joseph Otero junior and Josephine Atarot

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 * I will say not the most clever no not

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 * yeah those are not creative people

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 * Joseph Otero did seem like kind of a

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 * sociopath himself by naming his son

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 * Joseph and his daughter Josephine

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 * there's a dead George Foreman Sal right

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 * yeah yeah gary foreman Stein might as

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 * well just name him one too and in the

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 * rig um but yeah so it causes death here

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 * he's over a Sunni just breaks into the

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 * home he suffocated the father Joseph

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 * strangled Julie aunt arrow his wife I'm

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 * and I'm not sure what the difference is

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 * there suffocated or strangled oh no

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 * that's a huge day like strangled is

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 * never you know you put your arm or your

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 * hands around the throat we're above it

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 * Suffolk yeah or something like that

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 * suffocated like a hello yeah pillow over

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 * the face so if you're going to be

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 * suffocated or strangled I guess you

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 * would go suffocation it would be

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 * slightly less painless yeah yeah a bit

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 * yeah straight up for just still being

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 * alive hmm of course why do you go with

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 * alive that's interesting because he

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 * suffocated the husband strangled the

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 * wife suffocated the son I would assume

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 * the strangulation also had to do with

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 * the fact that he was on oh with a rope

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 * he strangled her

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 * he was probably also having sex with her

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 * at the time so funny because it gets

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 * very that's very strange

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 * this is also like the Boston Strangler

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 * like Tom DeSalvo yeah who kind of did

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 * the same exact thing I just wonder what

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 * his I wonder what his motivation was was

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 * it sex or was it just power like a lot

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 * of like zero Kelly I got a sex yeah I I

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 * do feel like you know that's one in the

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 * same in a lot of ways you know even I

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 * mean I was having sex with my girlfriend

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 * today I did a little joke and why not

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 * yeah she was that fun I mean it helps

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 * him it helps you come a little bit you

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 * see Tom does Tom DeSalvo apparently like

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 * according to like he married this sort

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 * like a woman of four in need of a green

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 * card

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 * newspaper he married this woman from

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 * Russia and basically she was saying that

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 * he was a complete and total sex maniac

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 * you want to have sex like 10 12 times a

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 * day true and she wouldn't do it so that

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 * he started taking his own hands and

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 * basically start putting other people and

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 * that was he was the guy involved in

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 * taking his own hands

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 * we had to do with his hands we used to

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 * dress up as a delivery man and like like

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 * basically sort of scout out like old

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 * ladies

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 * and then break it like show up at their

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 * house like a strong-arm there his way

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 * into the apartment raped them and then

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 * strangle them with like their penny hose

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 * and those kind of his thing and that

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 * what he used to do his calling card over

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 * time was used to pose the bodies in fun

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 * little positions like sitting in a chair

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 * he put like sitting in a chair and then

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 * take the pantyhose that he strung with

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 * them like time in a big fancy bow around

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 * their neck ow that God absolutely

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 * terrified right you know that is just

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 * like good for him uh I'm a creative

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 * person too you know if you're gonna

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 * strangle somebody you might as well you

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 * would wear an old pantyhose

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 * yeah and then so BTK what he did with

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 * Josephine Otero he hanged her from a

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 * drainage pipe so you really liked

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 * basement trans body from a basement or

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 * you know with uh maybe maybe his main

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 * living room there I have no idea so he

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 * basically busted into a home killed the

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 * father by suffocated him strangled the

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 * wife suffocated the son and then hung

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 * the daughter from a drainage pipe and

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 * then I guess you just leave after that

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 * in order is a way to go work wasn't he a

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 * treasurer at his like Lutheran Church -

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 * I wasn't yeah he was very very important

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 * in in his church that was and that was

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 * what ended up being his downfall because

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 * he sent that sent that tape and they

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 * were able to you know get yeah the

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 * floppy disk from his church I'm glad

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 * they got that cruel fucker good well it

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 * were absolutely just straight-up police

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 * work especially when you go it's just

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 * that taunting thing that's like when I

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 * get like what happened with Zodiac

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 * killer

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 * Son of Sam was also super interesting

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 * like my my mom grew up in Queens when he

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 * went on his spree oh yeah and like that

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 * was the thing like business in the

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 * seventies like when that happened like a

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 * minute the police sort of like built

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 * this whole like

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 * son Sam is like gunning for specific

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 * people which is you was it blonde or

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 * brunette brunette so that was it my mom

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 * and I well apparently blondes do have

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 * more fun yeah yeah because they were you

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 * know I'm not I'm variously murdered but

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 * Sam it's like my mom used to have to get

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 * exported home from work guys would walk

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 * her from that work to the subway station

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 * like follower and like make sure nothing

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 * happened to her because it was all

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 * happening in Queens - and how was the

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 * Son of Sam out there killing for was it

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 * just it was a summer summer summer seven

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 * he was like he he did all like over a

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 * short period of time and then got caught

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 * pretty quick he got caught parking

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 * tickets is that what it was that that's

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 * how he got caught parking tickets now so

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 * what they made a they they can pray he

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 * had another parking taken they

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 * confronted him like you have all these

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 * back parking ticket abroad and like

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 * looked in his car and saw the gun I

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 * think it's something like that

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 * yeah it was since I mean that's one nice

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 * thing about the BTK killer I feel like

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 * he put a little bit of work in and like

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 * the fellow you were talking about

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 * earlier with the stockings

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 * you know what strangle ization is much

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 * much harder to do than the gunshot to

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 * the head

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 * Son of Sam was kind of lazy and it to

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 * some degree because again it's all about

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 * its it's all about power it's all about

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 * someone who feels like a nobody who like

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 * I guess you could say maybe slip through

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 * the cracks of the system or like various

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 * shit were like I don't even know if

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 * you'd like if that's true but they they

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 * feel disenfranchised in a way for one

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 * thing another and they desire to like

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 * make themselves a fucking superstar you

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 * know like any other super story that's

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 * how you do it - in their mind you know I

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 * just don't know but some people some

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 * people just kill for the love of killing

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 * lie I mean we were talking about this

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 * guy earlier HH Holmes the America's

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 * first serial killer who killed purely

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 * for the love of killing just shows how

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 * good he could be at it yeah I mean and

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 * it was amazing at it but I think also

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 * what's that stat stat about 76% of

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 * serial killers are from America which i

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 * think is pretty interesting and I think

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 * it also goes into that mentality of like

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 * trying to be a superstar this is really

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 * the only Snooki is a superstar now for

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 * being an alcoholic yeah I

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 * you know Paris Hilton's a superstar just

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 * being a rich it's almost like reality

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 * televisions maybe maybe it's putting a

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 * sort of cure on serial killers are

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 * really getting those real depraved

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 * fuckers the well mention that they want

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 * by just being on television instead of

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 * murdering people and then there was that

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 * reality star they didn't would the guy

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 * who went on a killing spree killer

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 * that's right I don't know enough about

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 * that story but yeah there's a reality

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 * star town yeah I mean that's the thing I

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 * wonder if Mike the situation Sorrentino

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 * with a serial killer had he not gotten

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 * Jersey Shore and now he has the you know

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 * the acclaim that he needs and he's like

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 * well thank God I didn't have to murder

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 * all those people to you how many who

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 * were saved I mean I think that that

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 * means it's the same thing with me I mean

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 * I always thought well with the quickest

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 * way to make the papers you going to kill

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 * somebody

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 * I mean not really a star but now we're

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 * comedians because we understand the

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 * redemptive power of laughter

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 * well we're now there attentively

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 * thankfully thankfully where we can speak

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 * into microphones and not be concerned

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 * the fact that people don't give a shit

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 * about what we're saying yeah we care and

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 * that's all that matters HH Holmes oh I

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 * go badly

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 * agh Holmes was kind of insane and

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 * amazing like he goes over to give you

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 * but to give a little bit of background

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 * information

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 * thank you much about HH Holmes he they

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 * consider him to be America's first

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 * serial killer possibly I mean he was

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 * maybe the first one that they you know

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 * caught I guess I like named Israel yeah

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 * that they named this is uh this guy was

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 * active mostly during the Chicago World's

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 * Fair in the late 1800s and he would

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 * usually years the concept of a serial

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 * killer in the 1800 yeah after we're you

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 * know like yeah at a fair I like we get

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 * most to me that the happy like I read

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 * this book the devil in the White City

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 * yeah like talking about like how the

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 * Chicago World's Fair was just like this

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 * consider to be this accomplishment for

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 * Americans in general library where I

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 * mean we're going against the Eiffel

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 * Tower here like that there's no shit

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 * like they're like how can we beat the

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 * Eiffel Tower and they built the ferris

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 * wheel that was that was America's

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 * response to the Eiffel Tower now we all

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 * know that Ferris wheels are gay and

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 * stupid yeah and they also creates

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 * European and then edge edge Holmes was I

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 * mean he he was sort of a like a reverse

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 * black widow type character over there he

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 * would met

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 * woman and then you like you know tell

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 * the family like because you know this is

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 * old America where people are you know

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 * scattered all over the place yeah and so

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 * he figures out this perfect plan like

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 * you build a hotel and in the Chicago

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 * World's Fair you had went like young

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 * girls from all over the country coming

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 * to Chicago to try to like they're going

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 * to the big city like they're gonna

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 * big-time they're gonna get a job as a

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 * reception like they're just going to get

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 * jobs they just obj and a soap maker and

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 * they would come and stay at a HH HHS

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 * hotel and they would just disappear and

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 * no one would know why no how because you

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 * would have architects build wings on it

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 * was house give the architect hire new

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 * architects to build other corresponding

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 * wings in the house and all don't

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 * magically and so that no one knew the

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 * full layout of his mansion of murder

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 * until afterwards like yet he had a kill

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 * room uh he had a disposal like Jakarta

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 * Toria min the basement yes does a lot of

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 * Michael Jackson's Neverland yes yeah

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 * yeah that is without all the shag

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 * carpeting that Cougars run yeah that's

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 * very sort of like monkey said he had no

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 * elephants are giraffes and they caught

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 * him when he start he killed Chelsea he

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 * killed a couple children and that so he

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 * started with women that he would marry

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 * and then he worked his way down to

19:01
 * children but he also did he killed a

19:04
 * bunch of like like different types of

19:06
 * yeah like he killed who killed whoever

19:08
 * was convenient

19:09
 * like whoever he saws like I can kill

19:11
 * that person get away with it he would

19:13
 * kill them he like it's not it's not

19:15
 * really it's not known exactly how many

19:18
 * people kill but it was dozens and this

19:20
 * is also just comes down to all right so

19:21
 * you got kind of like this idea of like

19:23
 * you know no one knows who the serial

19:24
 * killer is because like you know they're

19:26
 * supposed to be sort of an oculus person

19:27
 * it like person but I just love the idea

19:29
 * of like HH Holmes like as he was

19:31
 * supposed to be the sort of charismatic

19:32
 * like Juliet use the Ted Bundy of the

19:35
 * apron I imagine the 19th century but in

19:38 1880s that has to be like a whole 19:41
 * different context imagine like magnet

19:44
 * which are like charm women in the ages

19:46
 * you run around go like okay I

19:49
 * like knocking drinks out of people's

19:51
 * hands like spinning is like cane like

19:53
 * wild all over the place like what a cone

19:55
 * like B he's charming and dashing that's

19:59
 * a little him being a fucking complete

20:01
 * total maniac good a Tom had an ascot you

20:04
 * can get any gal in town just biting

20:07
 * people and shit like yeah yeah I love

20:10
 * dancing

20:11
 * oh he dance is also and he was also a

20:15
 * deadbeat - yeah you cont would accrue

20:19
 * debts uh and just kind of pass them off

20:23
 * to other people and he was like very

20:25
 * much like a Trekkie could charm people

20:27
 * he could charm women into marrying him

20:29
 * going home with him he could charm

20:31
 * people into giving him loans into so

20:33
 * giving him he's in al-qaeda on point

20:36
 * yeah I mean he was able to to accrue

20:38
 * money but without ever really paying any

20:41
 * of it back and you just completely fuck

20:43
 * people over I mean he was truly a

20:46
 * monster without a soul in every way yeah

20:48
 * like they said it was looking and

20:49
 * whenever you look into his eyes is

20:51
 * looking to the eyes of the devil yeah

20:53
 * yeah yeah which is super interesting

20:55
 * kind of like so those kind of bridging

20:58
 * the bridge in the horror movies like

20:59
 * talking about Ed Gein that reminds me of

21:01
 * like because apparently the sheriff will

21:04
 * go into what Ed Gein did the sheriff who

21:06
 * arrested at gain apparently had a heart

21:07
 * attack

21:08 10 months after it and they basically 21:10
 * said that after he investigated his

21:12
 * crimes he was never the same and went

21:14
 * into despair and essentially just like

21:16
 * died it was like another victim of that

21:18
 * dude what's tell let's let everyone who

21:20
 * egginess

21:20
 * yeah ed Gein's from Plainfield Wisconsin

21:22
 * he's a successful young man hometown boy

21:25
 * hometown boy made good him and Jeffrey

21:28
 * Dahmer two of Wisconsin's finest finest

21:31
 * killers um yeah he killed the two people

21:34
 * only which i think is very interesting

21:36
 * and then but it's what he did it's like

21:39
 * everything else that made him be

21:42
 * canonical like the most insane serial

21:44
 * killer of all time yeah I mean I think

21:46
 * I'm at these mostly notorious for being

21:48
 * a grave robber yeah and also you know he

21:52
 * wore his mother's skin is a suit and all

21:55
 * that crazy so hence that's who they make

21:57
 * leather face off of yeah with leather

22:00
 * face so psycho

22:02
 * um like this hotel thing with psycho I

22:05
 * feel like it might be a little bit more

22:07
 * HH dad seems a little bit but it's all

22:09
 * just a him dressing up his mother

22:11
 * wanting to be his mother like talking

22:13
 * about it's like he lived alone with his

22:15
 * mother after everyone died and basically

22:17
 * like as although everyone his family

22:18
 * died he lived alone with his mother I

22:20
 * was like a very strange strange strange

22:23
 * kid growing up there like talking sort

22:26
 * of like he would kind of sit by himself

22:27
 * and like like laugh - inside I mean it

22:30
 * was a hilarious joke he was right really

22:33
 * just he must have been such a cut-up he

22:36
 * then um uh I guess and when she died he

22:41
 * walled up every room in the house that

22:42
 * she uh did that his mother you see use

22:45
 * and you just lived in a tiny room next

22:47
 * to the kitchen with his mother's dead

22:49
 * body and eventually carved her up into a

22:52
 * suit because he wanted secretly wanted

22:54
 * to be a woman that was like part of his

22:55
 * thing and so what he would be pretty

22:58
 * common a lot of sexual confusion in the

23:01
 * serial killers yeah sex and sex and

23:03
 * serial killer and strictly linked yeah

23:06
 * yeah because I know that was the thing

23:07
 * with John Wayne Gacy he was a homosexual

23:09
 * and he always felt very bad about it and

23:11
 * I watched a documentary on him and the

23:13
 * narrator wanted to make it seem like

23:14
 * homophobia was the reason there's no I

23:17
 * still children but tears when I feel the

23:20
 * young men who wouldn't blow him when he

23:22
 * or they would blow him and then he would

23:24
 * be so incensed that they blew him that

23:27
 * he'd killed him yeah so as much like how

23:28
 * HH would kill the people who came into

23:30
 * his house and helped him make the rooms

23:32
 * you gotta kill him I mean anyone with

23:34
 * ever he did that yeah he did that just

23:35
 * to cover his tracks

23:36
 * it's just looser alien man it's losers

23:39
 * with they're very heavy deviant streak

23:41
 * that have secrets that they consider so

23:45
 * deep and so private and so dark and I'll

23:48
 * deal of you anything to cover it up yeah

23:51
 * I mean murder is a good secret to keep

23:54
 * covered up homosexuality all that people

23:57
 * know they just don't understand that

23:59
 * they did not do they good like John

24:00
 * Wayne Gacy died guess it was just hated

24:03
 * being a homosexual so hard that his

24:06
 * personality just got I guess just splits

24:09
 * in half yet allows you just go and just

24:12
 * be

24:13
 * monster absolutely that's what game did

24:15
 * like living privately in the house was a

24:17
 * so what is the list of the shit he made

24:19
 * out of debt he would dig up corpses that

24:22
 * were all basically the same size and

24:23
 * shape of his mother so oh it never was

24:26
 * and then he would try to did he ever try

24:27
 * to like recreate his mother well yeah

24:30
 * that's how we built the suit out of like

24:31
 * parts of her once that all rotted away

24:33
 * he would buy he would dig out the grave

24:37
 * and add shit to them when they when

24:39
 * authorities searched the house they

24:41
 * found it's nuts

24:42
 * for noses so one tool for nose it whole

24:50
 * human bones and fragments nine masks of

24:53
 * human skin Wow which disks that is

24:57
 * pretty awesome but that's the thing

24:58
 * there were just faces though that's a

25:01
 * thing like you just think they're only

25:02
 * masks in context and I think I mean it's

25:05
 * worth as far as serial killers go and

25:07
 * again was relatively peaceful and nice I

25:10
 * don't even know two kills is that

25:12
 * technically surreal I think I mean it

25:15
 * just gives another kids like just you

25:18
 * know just let's give it to him

25:19
 * you know but I feel like he's more but

25:22
 * he's my favorite one creepiest person

25:24
 * alive yeah he also had he had bowls made

25:27
 * from human skulls which makes sense yeah

25:29
 * that's a normal shape for that the skull

25:31
 * is a perfect ball I was wanted one as an

25:33
 * ashtray human skulls and ashtray is a

25:36
 * little healthier than yeah that's

25:37
 * different I'm a smoker Yeah right just

25:39
 * make a call to China they can make that

25:40
 * out

25:41
 * they also found ten female heads with

25:45
 * the top sawn-off all right yeah playing

25:47
 * with the brains about how where's he

25:48
 * gonna get the bowls exactly that's

25:53
 * correct

25:54
 * skin covering several chair seats which

25:57
 * you know we use cow skin all the time

26:00
 * would it be fun if they were Asian they

26:01
 * could be like I hope you like my fine

26:04
 * china

26:06
 * oh I just made a funny I just made a

26:10
 * funny joke they remember that is kind of

26:12
 * EDM oh your dad died been dead for days

26:14
 * Andrew my living room oh I'm enjoying

26:19
 * myself Eddie is comedy club just a

26:24
 * little side I made on a bone see that

26:25
 * it's like come on down hey guys I want

26:28
 * to see my impression this me this mean

26:30
 * wise mom as my mother is dead Schiphol

26:34
 * Joey dead this is quote a serial killer

26:36
 * named their own comedy club you know you

26:38
 * called the like you think y'all so hot

26:40
 * yeah ha ha ha

26:42
 * head busters blonde Raiders but food

26:46
 * makers uh Mary Hogan's I had that's the

26:50
 * name of the one one of the people he

26:52
 * officially killed yes so work at the

26:54
 * hardware store that he would get his

26:56
 * shit all this tanning gear from to make

26:59
 * his skin stuff I mean I feel like that's

27:02
 * the first that's the first crime

27:04
 * you know these other if you dig up dead

27:07
 * bodies and use their bones for furniture

27:09
 * shouldn't you be praised for creativity

27:11
 * it's a Qantas snail I don't know I mean

27:13
 * what's so wrong with it I mean hey

27:16
 * people you always overreact when it

27:18
 * comes to the bodies like the eight

27:19
 * eleven they have to stop working on us

27:21
 * on the World Trade Center site every

27:23
 * three days ever to find a fragment of

27:26
 * somebody's shoulder bone what's your

27:27
 * good sure it's like get over it it's

27:29
 * anything yet if I I'm just saying if I

27:31
 * am dead use my body to make a nice piece

27:34
 * of furniture well that's just your that

27:36
 * but you could put that in your will on

27:38
 * that's fine I didn't think those who I

27:39
 * don't know not do that yeah it's not

27:41
 * allowed but where did they don't know

27:43
 * you can't you can't you cannot legally

27:45
 * stuff you have a friend who's a

27:48
 * taxidermist by rail

27:53
 * he's a taxidermist and he gets he says

27:55
 * he gets at least two calls a year from

27:58
 * an old woman wanting to stuff her dead

28:00
 * husband why can't you do it I don't know

28:02
 * it's it's not allowed you cannot legally

28:04
 * uh stop a human being we got to figure

28:06
 * out some petition we gotta get over

28:08
 * there talk to our Assemblyman and older

28:12
 * and make it legal to start stopping

28:14
 * these dead bodies yeah it's you reuse

28:16
 * reduce recycle yeah sure that's what

28:19
 * it's all about I want a big stuffed been

28:22
 * Kissel when I die in your apartment I'd

28:24
 * live have it yeah I put clothes over it

28:27
 * yeah put clothes over a dirty laundry

28:29
 * have my hand palm up and your business

28:31
 * cards in there grab them as they leave

28:34
 * oh it can be yeah yeah a lot of fun they

28:37
 * also said they also found Bernice

28:39
 * Worden's head in a burlap sack that's

28:41
 * the other girl that's the other person

28:42
 * he killed so I just love these people's

28:44
 * heads sir nice Bernice yeah they both

28:47
 * worked at this convenience store

28:49
 * apparently and oh my goodness this is

28:52
 * gonna be my this is my favorite one I've

28:54
 * owned nine vulvas yeah shoe box shoe box

28:58
 * which is a good Tori Amos album title

29:00
 * huh

29:01
 * pussies in a shoe box skulls on the

29:05
 * bedpost organs in the refrigerator a

29:07
 * pair of lips on a drawstring for his

29:10
 * window shade house is amazing

29:13
 * I wish you to my uncle I want to go

29:17
 * there so bad hole on the lips open let

29:20
 * the sunlight in huh a little kissy Oh a

29:25
 * little kissy kiss he's getting God I

29:28
 * think this is probably the best one yet

29:30
 * well first is the lamp shipment of human

29:32
 * skin we know that or you may have made

29:34
 * up made for a human face so that's

29:36
 * pretty good this epidemic my personal

29:39
 * favorite a belt made from human female

29:41
 * nipples yeah I've heard about the nipple

29:44
 * belt that's Granite Belt I mean how does

29:47
 * that even work how do you sew it all

29:48
 * together does it patience time love I

29:51
 * wonder if he lost a little bit of weight

29:53
 * he's like oh my god I'm a 34 mm five hat

29:57 18:18 nipples on my belt start like it 30:02
 * awful you could always flash you just

30:04
 * add another nipple to one end of the

30:06
 * belt I mean it's a constant extender

30:08
 * belt it's perfect ah what made him think

30:11
 * of belt your nipples are the perfect

30:14
 * size to put on but I go yeah like you

30:18
 * know like you have those belts that like

30:20
 * have the metal studs on them right

30:22
 * that's what I was saying

30:23
 * same concept exactly I used the

30:25
 * intestines as a little belt yeah you're

30:29
 * lazy buddy they got a so it he used he

30:31
 * used the Nessie I don't think did he

30:33
 * like make the belt specifically from

30:36
 * nipples who did he use them as

30:37
 * decoration on like a leather belt is I

30:39
 * imagine decoration well think yeah it

30:42
 * doesn't say but I would if the belt is

30:45
 * only nipples I mean it's just a

30:48
 * testament to the strength of human flesh

30:51
 * you know those doilies that you can like

30:53
 * those like circle things you have put

30:55
 * energy powers it's like that see I

30:57
 * would've just made it daily and I waited

30:59
 * oily they'll be pent as you would your

31:01
 * pants would be falling down all over

31:02
 * town and know that I'm using the

31:04
 * intestines as a rope belt I don't know

31:06
 * that's lazy I mean that's why idea I

31:09
 * made a whole fucking doily out of human

31:11
 * nipples yeah that's true or just one you

31:17
 * got it out who you kill those gals in

31:18
 * Wisconsin get some pretty cool yeah you

31:21
 * see the AG area but the movie so psycho

31:24
 * is kind of loosely based Texas Chainsaw

31:26
 * is kind of loosely based there's a movie

31:27
 * called deranged that is like really

31:29
 * heavily based on his life and the best

31:32
 * part about that movie is that they kind

31:34
 * of cuz like he came from a super super

31:36
 * religious family where his mother taught

31:38
 * him that like every other woman was a

31:41
 * prostitute it should be murdered and

31:43
 * while you know very sort of like just

31:44
 * would really be behind every good man as

31:47
 * a woman behind every psycho killer is a

31:49
 * terrible mom big yeah a big mother like

31:51
 * tells you you're not worth anything and

31:52
 * essentially have a sort of semi sort of

31:54
 * ancestral relationship she dressed up as

31:56
 * a little girl shit but um he the movie

31:59
 * deranged is amazing because like

32:00
 * whenever at games like about to do

32:03
 * something particularly kooky ah like she

32:05
 * does this like this church music starts

32:08
 * playing like this like really like quiet

32:09
 * sort of like organ music begins playing

32:12
 * you hadn't see the look in his face and

32:13
 * I'm like man look it's really fucking

32:18
 * good

32:18
 * I'm a did a good casting for the Ed Gein

32:20
 * because he's like a sort of like 60 year

32:23
 * old man who's just like really just he

32:25
 * was a tiny guy yeah I mean he just lived

32:28
 * with his mother the whole time and he

32:29
 * was old and feeble and I'll tell you

32:31
 * those feels of Wisconsin much less much

32:33
 * like Texas you can just really get lost

32:35
 * out there yeah

32:36
 * and nobody knows who you are you just

32:38
 * know it lives there

32:39
 * there was a things like you were

32:40
 * counting in the other episode about

32:43
 * growing up in Texas I just realized like

32:44
 * what a fuckin ground for horror movies

32:48
 * oh it was perfect there's so many place

32:51
 * so many locations where like a horror

32:54
 * movie

32:54
 * would just look amazing South is perfect

32:57
 * for it the south is nice and I think I

32:59
 * mean Wisconsin has yes serial killers

33:02
 * but they wants to shoot in Wisconsin

33:04
 * Texas does not have I I can't even

33:08
 * really think of one serial killer that's

33:11
 * why they take the movies out of

33:12
 * Wisconsin they take the story that

33:13
 * Wisconsin put it in Texas because Texas

33:15
 * looks apart yeah Wisconsin better but

33:18
 * succumbed like a blast time I went to

33:19
 * Wisconsin you could just totally fuckin

33:22
 * see it like cornfields like various like

33:25
 * other words all open space super cold so

33:28
 * people are kind of isolated a lot of

33:30
 * times I think isolation and religion

33:32
 * there was one murder were actually

33:35
 * really gruesome murder in the town where

33:38
 * my parents live now like these three men

33:41
 * uh killed a woman and dumped her body

33:44
 * down one of those wells like those

33:47
 * abandoned Wells out in the middle of uh

33:49
 * by out in the middle of nowhere like

33:51
 * where you know that all these houses

33:53
 * that you know because there are all

33:54
 * these all it's like frontier so it's

33:56
 * alone there are there are there are a

33:58
 * ton of abandoned houses abandoned wells

34:00
 * and these three guys killed this woman

34:03
 * and dumped her down there and this

34:05
 * happened like 15 years ago and one of

34:08
 * the guys in order to escape a different

34:10
 * conviction rolled over on the other two

34:12
 * guys and that's how they found her

34:13
 * otherwise they never liked that it would

34:16
 * have been a cold case they never ever

34:17
 * would have found this woman so Wisconsin

34:20
 * so easy and Jeffrey Dahmer who does

34:22
 * Texas have is their biggest number-one

34:24
 * guy we don't really have anybody yeah

34:26
 * I'm doing it anybody like we don't like

34:28
 * as far as like big serial killers got

34:30
 * like there are smart like we don't have

34:32
 * any famous ones there's small ones there

34:34
 * was a guy in Lubbock whenever I was in

34:35
 * college that killed hookers and put them

34:41
 * in like suitcases boxes

34:45
 * but he put them in suitcases and like

34:47
 * throw them out in the sea I mean that's

34:48
 * the difference in that guy is not famous

34:50
 * because if he wants famous you would

34:52
 * have made them into suitcases yeah they

34:54
 * just like they'll look just like roll

34:56
 * out of the make this little eyeball you

34:58
 * gotta have a gimmick I know like there's

35:01
 * a lot of guys they're just there's just

35:02
 * no like really gimmicky like there's no

35:05
 * guys with a hook I mean that that's

35:07
 * exactly like pop songs and of course

35:10
 * Henry you're from Florida so you guys

35:12
 * anyone to FSU yeah so you of course you

35:15
 * have the wonderful Teddy Bundy well the

35:17
 * best part about the FSU section of the

35:19
 * Teddy Bundy story is that like his talk

35:23
 * about like the same thing kind of with

35:24
 * Dahmer like various people were like Ted

35:27
 * Bundy was a very cautious guy who kind

35:30
 * of like build the whole sort of you

35:31
 * charm people into uh you charm people

35:34
 * into like getting like a joke alone with

35:37
 * the car with any murder them very sinks

35:38
 * but so we broke out of a jail Colorado

35:41
 * but was right so he was arrested before

35:43
 * he was arrested for his crimes in cotton

35:46
 * Denver he broke out of jail drove to

35:48
 * Florida to get away from the authorities

35:50
 * got into Florida with nowhere to go

35:52
 * would always to retire to if you're a

35:54
 * serial killer you know just go to the

35:55
 * warm sunny beaches but he he uh went on

35:59
 * like circulars towards their end of

36:01
 * their sort of like tenure they go he

36:03
 * just went into fuckin Berserker mode

36:06
 * because he felt like the cops were hot

36:08
 * on his trail so he just went on a very

36:11
 * very much more brutal than all his

36:14
 * previous crimes he went from sorority to

36:16
 * house a sorority house through this

36:18
 * ravine that runs through FSU like the

36:21
 * back of all these various warehouses and

36:23
 * like he bit that one girls like nipple

36:26
 * off you like be like went on this

36:27
 * horrible crime spree very killed its

36:30
 * girls and that it's eventually where he

36:31
 * was caught in Tallahassee and put to

36:33
 * death in Florida and he was let that

36:36
 * hold there's a Bundy trail that it's

36:38
 * called which is literally this just this

36:41
 * super desolate ravine thing that runs

36:45
 * behind all the sororities that

36:46
 * technically is gated off like you're not

36:48
 * even supposed to go back there anymore

36:49
 * but like the thing was to get like get

36:52
 * super drunk and like sorority girls easy

36:55
 * do it as a hazing thing to where they

36:56
 * would like walk the

36:58
 * being unlike to very like kind of follow

37:01
 * the steps it said bunny but if you want

37:03
 * to get kicked out of a sorority house

37:05
 * faster than possible just mention em and

37:09
 * you just outages out of there it's been

37:10
 * stricken like from their histories and

37:12
 * stuff like that I mean absolutely that's

37:14
 * about it

37:14
 * he is the boogeyman of every sorority

37:16
 * house I'm here about where you scape you

37:19
 * escaped from pink in County uh uh from

37:23
 * super smart because I was working with

37:25
 * all his like he'd like learn how to

37:27
 * defend himself exactly getting a law

37:29
 * degree himself and he escaped uh for two

37:33
 * days he was on the run uh hiding in a

37:35
 * hunting cabin and then he went south and

37:38
 * he went to a place called Crested but

37:43 [Music] 37:45
 * got aggressive but ended up stealing it

37:48
 * cause in a buffet place I could let a

37:51
 * town or a restaurant the others and Ed

37:54
 * gives buffet place nothing but nipples

37:56
 * and ears so he's on Thursday to nibble

38:00
 * on him dumb one yummy yum this nipple is

38:03
 * overcooked

38:04
 * I'm never coming back here um yeah then

38:07
 * he went to Ann Arbor Michigan finally

38:09
 * ended up in Florida and uh my goodness

38:12
 * yeah that sounds the Chi Omega sorority

38:15
 * house is high Omega it was that was

38:18
 * cocky oh my oh my good evil and the

38:25
 * first one he killed in in a Florida

38:28
 * Margaret Bowman as she slept in her bed

38:30
 * yeah and then Lisa levy same thing with

38:34
 * night soccer same thing what night

38:35
 * surgeries to do was break in people's

38:37
 * houses sit in the corner their houses

38:38
 * until they went to sleep and they tell

38:40
 * them after they went to sleep rape them

38:42
 * and kill them I mean just don't go to

38:44
 * sleep don't go to sleep ever I mean you

38:46
 * know it's a real Freddy Krueger such a

38:48
 * way don't let your guard down pretty

38:49
 * much ever and I had a picture of Ted

38:53
 * Bundy uh

38:54
 * after the execution I was in a weekly I

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 * used to love the Weekly World News yo-yo

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 * did all the time to ten when you look

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 * like batboy now it's met it was after he

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 * had gotten

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 * right after he died from the electric

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 * chair okay and it was a picture of just

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 * his head and these stitches like he had

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 * not that shaved his head like no hair

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 * yeah and these stitches on the side like

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 * on his temples from where like the

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 * electrodes were so they don't ya like

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 * that the face of a monster and I thought

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 * that was a coolest fucking picture ever

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 * cut it out put it on the wall god that's

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 * all just that just sounds like all of

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 * we're like about the Internet that's

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 * kind of good about how deplorable the

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 * Internet is like 4chan being like sort

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 * of anonymous like 4chan it is the

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 * subconscious of the internet it's a

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 * bulletin board website you can go on you

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 * can digest to spend a lot of time on

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 * license that's until a bunch of pussies

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 * moved in it got to be about causes yeah

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 * how we're going to do some goods like no

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 * this thing is about gore and awful

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 * things and that's in about nihilism and

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 * not giving a shit about anything but the

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 * thing is I think that really allows I

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 * think it is a it actually a very

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 * appropriate output place for people that

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 * would normally put their horror on other

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 * humans yeah you can just like that a

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 * shit into the internet and like you'll

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 * see it'll ruin your night the various

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 * things like you go on the random section

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 * and I'll be like ah one will be like a

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 * you know like a hot girl and that's fine

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 * a negative

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 * yeah like another thing will be just

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 * like a dude's fucking hand and a

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 * shredder and various garbage mmm it's

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 * good it gets it gets another system so

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 * it's on that and violent video games I

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 * think really do get and horror movies I

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 * think all these all these things that we

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 * enjoy like regarding their cathartic it

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 * helps us to kind of get rid of that hell

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 * that blood lust right sums that I like

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 * horror movies because to me it's such an

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 * it's so outside of my world like

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 * specially being comedian and doing

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 * comedy all the time where it's like I

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 * could it's true escapism for me because

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 * I'll I know it's not real number one but

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 * it it's the same thing as you know

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 * comedy as well it's like in it in in and

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 * I think that whore gets the bad rap

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 * where everyone's just like well they see

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 * people killing they're gonna do it

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 * smells like people enjoy comedy I like

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 * that uh film with Belushi Animal House

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 * never gone up to somebody playing guitar

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 * grab that guitar and smashed it against

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 * a wall I'm not gonna say that though no

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 * probably happened one time Natalie I'm

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 * not sure I think it somebody did it

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 * dozens of time but the thing but like

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 * horror yeah I watch horror constantly

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 * I'm what I watch I try to watch as much

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 * or as I can and I like I could I would

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 * never murder someone I would never do it

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 * in thousand years I'm a gentle kind

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 * you're a nice man fat-faced little

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 * comedian absolutely you'd be the real

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 * you're the John Wayne Gacy of comedy

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 * yeah you're a beautiful man and that's

41:50
 * gonna have to wrap up this episode thank

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 * you so much for listening to the last

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 * podcast on the left

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 * holy Lord he will be here next week

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 * discussing another amazing topic for

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 * markers parks and Rosario ski I'm Ben

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 * gizmo you want to do a plug for big fat

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 * scary April 21st midnight we're doing

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 * human centipede nice

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 * so do that come out to that and we will

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 * talk to you soon and I also want to give

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 * a shout out to our first big fan Ron

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 * Purdy Ron thanks for listen that's right

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 * run thank you buddy it's going to keep

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 * on being amazing talk to you later

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